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#31 DaNzZ

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 09:59 PM

Damn... It was hanging on 2 threads....

I just got my gasket cylinder today so I'll be booking in my car at my mechanic next week. Hopefully mine won't be broken....

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 11:16 PM

see if its boken, you just bolt it all back together and drive it very carefully to the mechanics :chuckles:

ill assess the situation when i get to it, i dont see why an easy-out wont do it though

buying a torque wrench tomorrow... i needed one anyway
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Posted 17 November 2005 - 11:22 PM

just looking at the TSB, theyre just going the OVERLY cautious way of doing it, youll need to use an easy-out or tool of sorts to get it out even if you go thru those steps anyway.

if you assess the situation and be careful while the camehshaft is still in place i reckon its doable.

will post pictures and success (or lack thereof) stories after ive done it
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Posted 18 November 2005 - 11:17 AM

i've placed the order for my bolts and thinkin at least checking them myself, hope they're not broken and i'll just buy a torque wrench aswell. as it'll always come on handy.
lets us know how you go.
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Posted 18 November 2005 - 03:21 PM

I got my bolts today. They are pretty small.. Didn't know they were that small. It's gonna be a pain in the arse if it's broken. Gotta get a couple of numbers of thread removal guys on hand so when i pull the engine apart. I won't have to wait for long. Gonna get gatorback belt too so I'll swap that while i'm at it.
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Posted 18 November 2005 - 06:30 PM

ok, ive just removed my lift bolts and the intake one IS BROKEN

I think this is proof that basically EVERY SINGLE 7th gen with more than 50,000kms is likley to have broken lift bolts.

coming soon will be a super tutorial on how to remove the broken piece
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 06:30 PM

im at 70000km. havent had problem with it yet. better get mine check out. however, had my both cold air box nuts snapped when i try to install a new intake system. also had crack wheel nuts(17inch option alloy from deal). i hav to drill the wheel nut out man! why toyota hav some many problem on nuts? r they some cheap china made nuts...

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Posted 08 March 2006 - 06:30 PM

You can't tell if your lift bolt is broken by just driving it. You gotta actually go in there and inspect to see if it is.

Everyone that has checked (except Hex) has had a broken lift bolt, and all still could engage lift. My lift was still pretty strong and mine was broken

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Posted 08 March 2006 - 07:32 PM

Hey! I changed my lift bolts at 125,000kms and the bolts weren't broken. My car is driven hard at trackdays too (ie lots of lift and redline rev limiter bounce). It's also a daily driver. I've never hit lift unless the engine has warmed up.
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 11:18 PM

Hey Guys,

I recently traded my 1990 SX to a 2004 ZR with 50,000 on the clock. Is the lift bolt issue still a problem with the later Celica's or only on the earlier ones?
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Posted 18 May 2007 - 12:57 AM

2004 model celica got the upgraded better version of the lift bolt. You should be fine for now since your car is still new.
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Posted 18 May 2007 - 07:13 AM

That's right. 99-02 7th gen owners are actually installing the 03-06 7th gen's lift bolts!
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:54 PM

went in for the 75,00km service, got asked if id like the throttle clean done i said yeah. It didnt seem to make much diff besides maybe the exhaust sounding a bit better than normal... the lift seems to be sluggish is not happening either (gotta get the lift bolts looked at) it seems almost every 7th gen no matter how many kms its done has had issues with the bolts

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 07:02 PM

Hi Guys,


I took my car to Mechanic and I explained him the issue with Celcia regrading lift bolts


His suggestion was it is just wast of money. He said, in his experience for past 15 years he have not come a cross any thing that need to replace these bolts confuse.gif


So initially I agreed to what he said since he is experience guy. unsure.gif


But I am afraid if some thing will happen after going through the forum confuse.gif




Should strictly asked him replace those bolts no matter what his thought on this cool.gif . Since I am the one who paying for it laugh.gif



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Posted 08 June 2009 - 07:13 PM

That's because in the 15yrs he has been a mechanic. He has never worked on a vehicle with vvtl-i.

Dumb freaken generalising stubborn headed mechanic.
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Posted 08 June 2009 - 08:04 PM

heeheeh chuckles.gif


Coollllllll bro

I will take my celica to some one else



dam Do I have to explain all the mechanic when ask them to replace these bolts . confuse.gif I think most of mechanic do not know till I explain the issue





QUOTE (51EKA @ Jun 8 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's because in the 15yrs he has been a mechanic. He has never worked on a vehicle with vvtl-i.

Dumb freaken generalising stubborn headed mechanic.



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Posted 08 June 2009 - 09:32 PM

Most won't know.. Download and print the tsb and whatever else you can find on the net.
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Posted 23 June 2009 - 10:25 PM

Dudes,

I got LiftBolts replaced in my Celica today. You guys are correct one of the Bolt was broken as usual . F*** . ghey.gif

Fortunately It have not damaged the engine P unsure.gif

I have printed the tsb and gave to mechanic dude and he did the job.


Thanks guys this save some big money for me. Imagine if some thing happened to the engine because of this.

I am surprise that my Toyota dealer does not even aware of these things confuse.gif Otherwise they should have done this when car was taken to the service liar.gif

I decide not not go for service for Toyota dealer afterwords since there are this much of careless people unsure.gif

Cheer
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QUOTE (51EKA @ Jun 8 2009, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most won't know.. Download and print the tsb and whatever else you can find on the net.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:30 PM

Although I don't think mine is affected, looked into it anyway and received this response from Toyota dealer:

"Hi Brad I have checked all the AUSTRALIAN Toyota service bulletin

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 02:34 PM

Are you sure yours isn't affected? Several people here has theirs broke. Doesn't mean it won't happen to you
look at the post before yours smile.gif

My one were worn, you can see the rings around the bolts
it's better to know your car is safe with the new bolts.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 02:44 PM

QUOTE (anhphuongvu @ Apr 21 2010, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you sure yours isn't affected? Several people here has theirs broke. Doesn't mean it won't happen to you
look at the post before yours smile.gif

My one were worn, you can see the rings around the bolts
it's better to know your car is safe with the new bolts.



It's a concern but mine is '04 - I heard they improved the bolts after '02

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 06:16 PM

Sigh...
I should have checked what model you had first. Haha

your 04 one should be fine. It's the pre face lift models that should be concerned

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 02:08 PM

Can't tell you how relieved I was to find out the 04s are okay. I'm still looking for any other know issues to try to pre-empt them... my last car was a shocker

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 09:53 AM

Im looking at getting around a 2000 7th gen. Went to dl that pdf posted a while ago and the link has died. Anyone stll have a copy of it? STill um'ing and ah'ing about getting one, or a DC2 - or a normal boring car.

Is replacing them a DIY job?
replacing lift bolts
I didnt reliase there was two topics on this. anyways... found the guide ^

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (plohl @ May 9 2010, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im looking at getting around a 2000 7th gen. Went to dl that pdf posted a while ago and the link has died. Anyone stll have a copy of it? STill um'ing and ah'ing about getting one, or a DC2 - or a normal boring car.

Is replacing them a DIY job?
replacing lift bolts
I didnt reliase there was two topics on this. anyways... found the guide ^


this guide maybe better as they shows real pictures and done by a old member

http://www.users.on....tech/liftbolts/

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:44 AM

QUOTE (anhphuongvu @ May 9 2010, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this guide maybe better as they shows real pictures and done by a old member

http://www.users.on....tech/liftbolts/


Yeah, found that yesterday too.



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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:06 AM

You may also find this useful too smile.gif

www.celicahobby.com/tech/tsb2/TSB_liftbolts.pdf

its the Toyota Service Bulletin for the 2ZZGE

Notice how they say "customer may complain about reduction in power after 6000rpm"

Good to know their customers are pushing their cars to 6000+ LOL

Edited by trd_st_162, 23 July 2010 - 11:06 AM.


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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:48 PM

I just replaced mine a week ago, my celica is a 99 model with 140 xxx km so i was surprised to see the bolts still in tact and just a bit warn.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 10:49 AM

most of the bolts are worn
many unlucky ones has broken ones

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 12:53 PM

I'm tempted to print and frame that TSB. It would look awesome framed in the garage.




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