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#1 kira

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 12:33 PM

new to celica so wondering anybody know this.

getting new rims so just want some measurements and tire profile thats suitable for celica.
i want measures for 15", 16" and 17" please

example for a 16" rim n tyre(not real):

16"
4 x 100 , 4 x 113
40+ offset
205/45/16

thanks people!

Edited by kira, 14 June 2006 - 12:33 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2006 - 01:47 PM

15" x 6.5
5 x 100
+39 offset
205/55R15
load rating 87

16" x 6.5
5 x 100
+39 offset
205/50R16

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 04:36 PM

im not sure sure what the offset is, within rta guide lines we can go 225 wide 35 profile and 18 inch rim ive done extensive research on what wheel and tyre combo i could go
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Posted 14 June 2006 - 05:04 PM

ah ok thx

so 5 x 100 only?

so i can go up to 225? alrite sweet as .

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 11:11 PM

Here's some research from nc.org I have from a few months ago:

Celica wheel sizes and offsets
(all use 5x100 PCD)
18x8.5 +44
18x8.5 +40
18x8.0 +37 sits flush
18x7.5 +42
18x7.5 +35 minimal rubbing when turning real hard
18x7.5 +30
17x8.0 +38
17x8.0 +35 sits flush
17x8.0 +32 sits flush
17x7.5 +30 sits flush
17x7.0 +40
16x6.5 +39 Stock ZR offset
15x6.5 +39 Stock SX offset


Tyres available in Aus:
Yokohama AVS ES100 205/55VR15 UTQG 280AA
Toyo T-1R 205/55VR15
Toyo T-1R 205/50VR15
Toyo R888 225/50R15
Toyo R888 205/50R15
Toyo RA1 225/50R15
Toyo RA1 205/50R15
Toyo T-1S 205/55VR15
Pirelli 6000 225/50R15
Hankook Ventus K102 205/55VR15
Falken Azenis RT615 205/50R15
Kumho Ecsta 712 205/55R15
Toyo R888 225/50R15
Toyo RA1 225/50R15
Hankook Ventus R-S2 225/50R15
Federal SS535 205/55VR15 UTQG 280AA
Dunlop Direzza DZ101 205/55R15
Silverstone FTZ 205/55ZR15
Federal 595RS 205/50ZR16
Federal SS595 205/50ZR16

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 09:45 PM

ahh damn vnice list!
much appriciated!

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 10:18 AM

Don't forget to take into account the load ratings on some of those tire profiles....

or you may find yourself in trouble with your insurance company when you need to make a claim

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 11:34 AM

Also, use this to work out your clearances, wheel size, offset and tyres. It's the best one I've found on the web:
http://www.bigcustom.../info_specs.jsp ;)

Here's the famous and most quoted wheel/tyre calculator:
http://www.miata.net...e/tirecalc.html
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Posted 21 June 2006 - 01:53 PM

This is pretty much my setup, not too sure about offset tho.
But yeh I think this is about as big as you can go without having to worry about cops defecting you. Cant get much closer to the original rolling diameter than this.
Although if your car came with the factory optioned Sportivo 17" rims you might get away with 19's.
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Posted 21 June 2006 - 02:59 PM

5x114.3 will not fit?

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 05:18 PM

No. PCD must be 5x100.

Only things that can vary are:
  • wheel size 15"-18"
  • wheel width 6.5" - 8.5"
  • offset +35 to +45
Second hand wheels that will fit the Celica are rare. WRX shares the same PCD 5x100 but they use different offsets (+45 - +55) so they won't fit a 7th gen without scrubbing or fouling the brakes.
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Posted 20 July 2006 - 06:12 PM

will 255/50/16 fit or only 205/55/16?

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Posted 20 July 2006 - 08:00 PM

with the different offset options... which is best?? like i know it moves the wheel in and out or something... so is it best to get the ones that "sit flush"??

why cant it just be 5x100 offset = 50
and not a million configs lol

but yes... awesome post!! i wanna get rims soon, wondering if i could legally get 19s... maybe not ay!!

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Posted 20 July 2006 - 08:21 PM

will 255/50/16 fit or only 205/55/16?

255/50/16 sounds like a Falcon or Commodore sized tyre. It won't fit. 225/45-16 will fit but it's not available in all brands/models and your wheel will need to be 7-8 inches wide. Toyo T1R and TPG models come in 225/45-16.

with the different offset options... which is best?

Offset +39 is standard so any offset less than +39 (eg +35) brings the wheel further outwards to fill out the guards. Offset more than +39 (eg +45 common for WRX wheels) brings the wheels in closer to the brakes and suspension. Then there's also what you want from your wheels? Use 15"-16" for good comfort, performance and cheap tyres. Use 17"-19" if you wanna look good but tyres are expensive and the ride is harsh. Check with Alin on cost and harsh ride as he rocked up to the Syd 7th Gen Meet with 19"s. Couple of the others had 18"s but Jesska's 17"s look huge as the spokes go all the way to the edge of the wheel :thumbup:

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 05:03 PM

hey guys would 18x7.5 45+ offset fit? i believe this was used for the WRX . and what tyres would i need to fit these if its possible in the 1st place

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 07:42 PM

I am currently using 205/55/16

I wounder if 205/45/16 will looks good :)

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 06:16 PM

I'm not sure what offset mine are but they are 18x7.5" with 225/35R18's, I think 215/35R18 is also fine just less rubber and profile.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 11:48 AM

I am currently using 205/55/16

I wounder if 205/45/16 will looks good :P


to clarify

205/55/16 =

width in mm /tire height in mm(AKA sidewall)/rim size in inches

When upgrading to a larger rim size, you need to decrease your tire height accordingly, otherwise your vehicle speed will not be correct.

so if you're goign to a 205/45 tire, you need to buy 17" rims. (approximately).

Most people want wider tires, rather than a smaller sidewall.
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Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:10 PM

so maybe 18x7.5 with 45offset might fit? i dnt wanna buy it and have it not fit :D

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 10:19 AM

so maybe 18x7.5 with 45offset might fit? i dnt wanna buy it and have it not fit :)


18 x 7.5 with 45 offset sounds like a fitment for the scuby doos

believe me its difficult to find correct 5 x 100 offsets for the celica...
you may have to look at getting some rims from o/seas

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 11:26 AM

I'm not sure what offset mine are but they are 18x7.5" with 225/35R18's, I think 215/35R18 is also fine just less rubber and profile.


I checked with TempeTyres and mine are +40 offset apparently.

http://www.bigcustom.../info_specs.jsp
+45 offset is "5 mm (0.2'') closer to suspension/brakes components. Acceptable for most cars."

The Bigcustomwheels.com website says any change of up to an extra +15 is acceptable for most cars but really you want to stay as close to stock as possible so you dont change the suspension geometry too much. Changing it too much could make the bearings wear out quicker.
It would change the track, i.e. how wide the tyres are from each other, which could make it handle differently.

Edited by celicajim, 27 February 2007 - 04:19 PM.

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 12:33 PM

Hey guys, dont want to start another thread thought i would just ask in there.

would the following set of profiles fit the celica? im thinking of lowering it too also later on with springs.

225/40/18

and

235/40/18

im just abit worried about the 235 being a little too wide?

anyways any help ASAP would be appriciated. need to make a decision in the coming days!!

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 12:56 PM

235 might be a bit wide, and no real point in getting rims that wide unless u gonna go turbo or s/c
they would just be heavy and slow


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Posted 05 June 2007 - 04:48 PM

225/40's would have a big sidewall and 235/40's would have even more... Very big tyres, most likely not legal on the Celica, could fit tho depending on rim offset and how low you go.

Celica ---| 117.5 fwkw | 1:44.19 - Winton (Semi Slicks) | 1:48.53 - Winton (Street Tyres) | 1:13.39 - Wakefield (Semi Slicks) | 1:16.17 - Wakefield (Street Tyres) | Phillip Island 2:07.62 (MM & Semi Slicks) | My Celica |
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Posted 05 June 2007 - 08:20 PM


What about 215-45-16.

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 01:43 AM

QUOTE(celicajim @ Jun 5 2007, 04:48 PM) View Post

225/40's would have a big sidewall and 235/40's would have even more... Very big tyres, most likely not legal on the Celica, could fit tho depending on rim offset and how low you go.


hmm yeah well i was thinking having 225/40 at the front. and 235/40 at the rear, since rear has lil more gap than the front.

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 09:08 AM

I tried on some 225/50R16's with a +45 offset which have a bigger rolling diameter than stock, The extra sidewall fit fine but the offset and the extra width made it alot closer to the suspension, but it still cleared it. Would only scrub a bit when turning at full lock.

Have a play with the Wheel Calculator - http://www.bigcustom.../info_specs.jsp - that will help you to see how much bigger those tyres will be.

To be legal you can't change the Rolling Diameter by more than 15mm. Not to mention it would throw your speedo reading out the window.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 05:07 PM

I got 20" wheels on mine laugh2.gif but my speedo is out by 7km.
That means if 100km/h shows on my gauges, I'm actually doin 107 - verified it with my tomtom navigation

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 11:10 AM

HAHAHAH! niceee, calibrate it tongue.gif there's a guide on newcelica.org somewhere i cbf doing a search tongue.gif

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 06:58 PM

Sorry for bringing this thread back up, but just have a couple of questions relating to this.






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